?Muay Koshasan? or ?Elephant boxing? Options

[Alessandro87]

"It's really worth putting on a film, especially the set of boxing movement called “Muay Koshasan” or “Elephant boxing”. It is an ancient art, focusing on the act of hurling, pressing, grabbing, and breaking. There are also the boxing movements which imitate the movement of elephant, such as, Elephant Stab, Arawan Upper-cut, Break the Elephant's nose, etc." -Tony Jaa-

Is it a real martial art, or is an invention for the film???

On google i can't find nothing about Muay Koshasan or Elephant boxing...


help me please, this stile is too cool, i want learn it

thanks

EDIT:

can someone translate this?

"Teknik Muay Koshasan ni banyak Jaa pakai masa fight dengan bodyguard Madame Rose kat kuil. Kalau korang perasan ader 2 version fighting yang Jaa tunjukkan iaitu satu version lembut (masa dia lawan ramai2 kat Restoran) dan version ganas (selepas dia kena tikam masa dia nampak rangka Por Yai). Teknik dia terus bertukar jadi teknik permatahan dan killer teknik (aderla beberapa teknik tu nampak cantik coz by the fotography technique). Bagi yang biasa dengan self-defense technique, korang akan nampak teknik yg dia pakai memang praktikal untuk self-defense kecuali ader 2-3 teknik ala2 Hap Ki Do (leg lock).. tu yg flexible jer boleh buat. Tapi aku terkilan tengok teknik aku (mcm ajer teknik yg aku develop la..) ader pakai jugak kat dalam tu ha..ha.. mesti ader yg gelak bila aku kater si Jaa pakai teknik aku . Bagi aku setiap instructor kena ader trademark dan trade mark aku ialah teknik hand lock + choke yang aku develop 2-3 tahun lepas dan entah mcmn buleh samer dgn teknik Muay Koshasan ni aku pun tak tahu ..claim aku punya kan kata aku perasan pulak."

This post has been edited by Alessandro87: Apr 20 2006, 02:04 AM

[iyalaa]

these arent thai ...i suppose..(malay isnt it?)

[Alessandro87]

No, is thai, is the martial art of the 4 bodyguard of the thai imperator (1400-1700)

Can you translate the text in thai?

[Helius]

I think he meant the text, I've read through it and I couldn't understand a word so I don't think it's thai. But maybe because it's written in english text If you can post it in the original text so I know if it's thai, I might even translate that for you But my best bet is that it's not thai

As for the Muay Koshasan, I don't believe anybody is teaching it

[Alessandro87]

"I think he meant the text, I've read through it and I couldn't understand a word so I don't think it's thai. But maybe because it's written in english text If you can post it in the original text so I know if it's thai, I might even translate that for you But my best bet is that it's not thai"

yes, i have controlled, is malaysian. Someone speak malaysian?


"As for the Muay Koshasan, I don't believe anybody is teaching it"

and Tony how has learned it?

This post has been edited by Alessandro87: Apr 20 2006, 11:02 PM

[janv_agul2]

Muay Kochasan isn't widely spread. my best bet is that it can only be learned in thailand. thailand is probably the only country that teaches this kind of martial arts.

muay kochasan wasn't made up by tony jaa; otherwise it would just be too complicated if he only made this up. i'm pretty sure he learned it from other people. as from what i've read in www.wikipedia.org (an online encyclopedia), muay kochasan is a branch of muay boran. so i'm sure it wasn't made up.

if you really wan't to learn this form of martial arts the best way will be going to the country it originated from; which is thailand. as for world-wide teaching of this kind of martial arts, well if you learned this, you could built a dojo that teaches it and share it to other people. you'll never know you might be the next master of muay kochasan.

This post has been edited by janv_agul2: Apr 20 2006, 11:48 PM

[Justin]

This is for sure Thai ancient martial art. Tony Jaa just learned from his hometown (surin) and make some more moves.

[xiaÖ jin]

"It's really worth putting on a film, especially the set of boxing movement called “Muay Koshasan” or “Elephant boxing”. It is an ancient art, focusing on the act of hurling, pressing, grabbing, and breaking. There are also the boxing movements which imitate the movement of elephant, such as, Elephant Stab, Arawan Upper-cut, Break the Elephant's nose, etc." -Tony Jaa-

Is it a real martial art, or is an invention for the film???

On google i can't find nothing about Muay Koshasan or Elephant boxing...


help me please, this stile is too cool, i want learn it

thanks

EDIT:

can someone translate this?

"Teknik Muay Koshasan ni banyak Jaa pakai masa fight dengan bodyguard Madame Rose kat kuil. Kalau korang perasan ader 2 version fighting yang Jaa tunjukkan iaitu satu version lembut (masa dia lawan ramai2 kat Restoran) dan version ganas (selepas dia kena tikam masa dia nampak rangka Por Yai). Teknik dia terus bertukar jadi teknik permatahan dan killer teknik (aderla beberapa teknik tu nampak cantik coz by the fotography technique). Bagi yang biasa dengan self-defense technique, korang akan nampak teknik yg dia pakai memang praktikal untuk self-defense kecuali ader 2-3 teknik ala2 Hap Ki Do (leg lock).. tu yg flexible jer boleh buat. Tapi aku terkilan tengok teknik aku (mcm ajer teknik yg aku develop la..) ader pakai jugak kat dalam tu ha..ha.. mesti ader yg gelak bila aku kater si Jaa pakai teknik aku . Bagi aku setiap instructor kena ader trademark dan trade mark aku ialah teknik hand lock + choke yang aku develop 2-3 tahun lepas dan entah mcmn buleh samer dgn teknik Muay Koshasan ni aku pun tak tahu ..claim aku punya kan kata aku perasan pulak."

Im Malaysian, but its hard to me to explain in English, heh. but ill try to explain it soon

[xiaÖ jin]

Teknik Muay Koshasan ni banyak Jaa pakai masa fight dengan bodyguard Madame Rose kat kuil. Kalau korang perasan ader 2 version fighting yang Jaa tunjukkan iaitu satu version lembut (masa dia lawan ramai2 kat Restoran) dan version ganas (selepas dia kena tikam masa dia nampak rangka Por Yai). Teknik dia terus bertukar jadi teknik permatahan dan killer teknik (aderla beberapa teknik tu nampak cantik coz by the fotography technique). Bagi yang biasa dengan self-defense technique, korang akan nampak teknik yg dia pakai memang praktikal untuk self-defense kecuali ader 2-3 teknik ala2 Hap Ki Do (leg lock).. tu yg flexible jer boleh buat. Tapi aku terkilan tengok teknik aku (mcm ajer teknik yg aku develop la..) ader pakai jugak kat dalam tu ha..ha.. mesti ader yg gelak bila aku kater si Jaa pakai teknik aku . Bagi aku setiap instructor kena ader trademark dan trade mark aku ialah teknik hand lock + choke yang aku develop 2-3 tahun lepas dan entah mcmn buleh samer dgn teknik Muay Koshasan ni aku pun tak tahu ..claim aku punya kan kata aku perasan pulak."

Jaa uses this Muay Koshashan technique a lot when fighting Madame Rose’s bodyguards at the temple. If you have noticed, Jaa displays two versions of fighting which is the softer version (when he fought them off at the restaurant) and the harder, more violent version (after he was stabbed when he saw Por Yai’s skeleton). His technique immediately changed into breaking technique and killing technique (there were a few techniques that looked very nice due to the cinematography). For those of you who are familiar with self-defense techniques, you will be able to see that the techniques that he uses are very practical for self defense except for a few techniques that are like Hap Ki Do techniques (leg lock) that only those with good flexibility can perform. I really felt awkward watching my technique (very similar to the technique I developed) being used in the film. I bet everyone will laugh if I say that Jaa used my technique. To me, every instructor has to have their own trademark move and my trademark is the hand lock and choke technique which I developed 2-3 years ago and somehow, it’s similar to a Muay Koshashan technique and I don’t have any idea how it came to be so similar. When I claim it’s my technique, they say I’m just being conceited.

[Alessandro87]

Thanks a lot Hake3m

[anurak]

thank you hake3m !

[Alessandro87]

the text is taken from a blog of a malaysian girl.

[Maxi]

Thanks, Hake3m,....good one!

[xiaÖ jin]

Eheh

[Sawatdee]

Great job Hake3m
(love you too)