Hey everyone this is my first topic here hehe ...i wanted to know how do u pronounce the names of the muay thai moves that Tony says while he still is in the village and his uncle watching...can someone please tell me? i want to know how to say them :tongue: thnx a lot!!!

GO TONY GO!!

EDIT: I found the site with the specific names and description for each of the moves that go with each of the pics.

The 'Science of 8 Limbs' - Muay Thai Movements

Muay Thai is ‘The science of 8 limbs’ – a Thai fighting style developed over thousands of years. No one knows exactly when Muay Thai was first practiced but it was considered a high art and part of the Thai Royal Court curriculum from around 1238AD. Apart from hand to hand uses in warfare, Muay Thai was considered a prestigious activity - with former Kings of Thailand sending their sons to train with temple monks as it was believed that bravery and fitness from training would lead to great and brave rulers.

Around 1604, King Narai, a lover of sports, helped to make Muay Thai widely available and soon many local playgrounds featured roped off areas for boxing training.

In 1767, Thailand was at war with the Burmese and a champion boxer Nai Kahnomtom was captured by the Burmese king Angwa. King Angwa called for a boxing match, the first Muay Thai match outside of Thailand and Nai Kahnomtom defeated all ten Burmese challengers in succession, with no rest at all between the ten fights.

As a result, Nai Khanomtom was honored as The Father of Muay Thai and the day of the fight, March 17th is now officially named ‘Muay Thai day’ in Thailand.



Phra-Ram-Yieb-Longka
King Rama Steps on the City. A counter attack where the left foot is placed on the opponent’s shin or upper leg- which allows the attacker to kick to the neck or face of the opponent.


Nu-Tai-Rao
The Rat Walks on the Line. After the punch is thrown, the defender grapples the arm, leaning backwards to remove power from the punch whilst using the knee to counter attack to the body.


Kwang-Sabud-Na
The Shakes Elbow. Either elbow can be used. If balance is lost from grappling, or the fighter finds themselves grappled under an opponent’s armpit- then elbow is used from below to strike and push the opponent off balance instead.


Jor-Ra-Fard-Hang
Swing Back Kick. Stepping forward, the attacker swings the leg to kick to the jaw or ribs with the heel of the foot.


Hanuman-Yieb-Longka
Giant Throws the Axe. The attacker uses the opponent’s body to jump high then strikes with the hand or elbow to the top of the head or face.


Hanuman-Tawai-Wan
Monkey Presents the Ring. The defender steps inside the attackers punch and punches with both fists under the tip of the chin- also called ‘MAD SOI DAO KOO’- or the dual uppercut.


Ban-Sien-Tossakarn
Cut the Giant's Neck. An advanced technique, where the attacker jumps up to strike simultaneously with both knees under the chin and both elbows to the crown, or top of the head.


Archa-Payong
Triple Attack. The defender steps inside the attacker’s punch and counter attacks with a dual fist to the chin and a knee to the body.

http://www.ongbak.com.au/muaythai.html

thnx a lot ma man ...Now u can use these in school to beat up some guys hehe thnx!!

Welcome EyeOfTheTiger ! Don't use the techniques too often hehe
Thanks Tony Jaa Fan, i didn't view your post about the Muay Thai techniques. Great job ! Maybe we can used it for tonyjaa.org, what do you think about that ?

I think its a good idea. I'm glad to able to help your site. After watching Ong Bak, I realized that there is so much I didn't know about Muay Thai. I never seen Muay Thai Boran or Krabi Krabong. I only seen sports Muay Thai. Perhaps u can do a section on your site that explains Muay Thai to educate others about it. I'm willing to help out if u need any. Theres a few site on this subject. I heard TYG will display some interesting new techiniques that Tony Jaa created.

Heres a site with some videos of Traditional Muay Thai. Check it out:

http://www.muaychaiya.com/page11.htm

Yes sure, I would be glad if you could help us because I don't know a lot about Muay Thai . If you have some good sites, articles or anything else you want to share, don't hesitate to mail me. We can create a good Muay Thai page !

Heres a brief explaination on this subject.

Muay Thai Boran

The word "Boran" means ancient or old. Muay Thai Boran is also known as "Muay Kaat Chueak (Empty hand combat)". Historical records reveal the art to be at least 200 yrs old but no one knows for sure. What u see in Muay Thai tournments is Modern Muay Thai which only display striking techinques. The knees and elbows are commonly used. However, that is just one aspect of Muay Thai in the grand scheme of things. Muay Thai Boran incorprates other than just striking. Theres many techinques that went into this art as result of years of evolution and mixing of style from other regions in Siam (which is now Thailand). It teaches how to use every part of the body as a deadly weapon using levers, projection, immobilization, strangulation and blows centered on vital points. Cermonial ritual and medititation was inportant to their training as well as following Buddhist Code known as "Sin Haa". Somehow, the art got water-down and many techiniques got lost with introduction of rules and regulation by the government in the 1920's and it evolve to what turns out to be known as Modern Muay Thai or Sport Muay Thai today. Theres is only a few master alive today that teaches this art.


This site provide a detail explaination with specific info on certain styles with some pictures to illustrate some of the moves:

http://www.ancientmuaythai.com
http://www.thaimartialarts.org/mt-traditional.html
http://www.muaychaiya.com/indexe.html


Krabi Krabong

It is a weapons fighting art derive from Muay Thai. During the ancient times, the Thais developed this style to fight off the Burmese invaders. Many soldiers were train in Karbi Krabong to do battle but it is also be used in dancing rituals. A common weapon is a double saber (Daab song muu) but thats just one of the weapons. This art is still practise in Thailand today, mainly for public display purposes.

For more info for Krabi Krabong, check this out:

http://www.usmta.com/Krabi-Krabong-1.htm(explain the history behind this art)
http://www.muaychaiya.com/page11.htm (contain video of Karbi Krabong)
http://www.krabikrabong.it/photogallery/index.htm (contain pictures)
http://www.thaimartialarts.org/kk-weapons-equipment.html (pics of weapons and equipment0

If anyone like to add anything to the table, please go ahead.. Feel free to use this info for your site Sawatdee.

Thanks ! I think we gonna work on that in few days since we had very little time till the site is launched :wacko: .

EDIT: Added more links and revised my notes. Feel free to make correction.

Heres a good link with Muay Thai Boran techniques. Even the moves used in Ong Bak:

http://www.chaophraya.co.uk/Mae_Mai_Luk_Ma...ai_luk_mai.html

curious,

does anyone where i can buy a good amount of thai boxing dvd's or vcds??
i'm looking for authentic bouts , with no international rules - it gets watered down here in teh states and i'd love to get some good matches. (kind of like what on beautiful boxer or any rope fights??)

This is an awesome thread. I loved the pics and definitions of Jaa's wicked Muay Thai moves. I am pumped to see Ong Bak.

I currently study Shaolin Longfist Kung Fu, but I am now pretty convinced that my second study will be a form of Muay Thai. Also my sister is a gymnastics expert I may start learning some tricks from her to help learn stunts.
I am glad that Jaa credits his gymnastics background since I know from my sisters experience that that is a very hardcore sport.

http://www.chaophraya.co.uk/Mae_Mai_Luk_Ma...ai_luk_mai.html

now it works



BTW, if you want to see videos of Tony Jaa demonstrating the different Muay Thai moves, get the French Ong Bak DVD or go to this site and navigate till u find Muay Thai section:

http://www.ongbak-lefilm.com/

The Martial Arts in Ong Bak


This column will discuss the Martial Arts used in the movie, Ong Bak: The Thai Warrior.

In this film, Ting (Tony Jaa) is an orphan, raised by the kind-hearted monk Pra Kru at Nong Pradu temple. Pra Kru trains Ting in the ancient art of Muay Thai, but insists that Ting promise never to use his skills to cause anyone harm. Instilled by Par Kru with true Buddhist teachings, Ting is determined to follow a good path in life. When the head of Ong-Bak, the village deity has been stolen by drug dealers, he must travel to the big city of Bangkok to retrieve it. On his journey, he will be force to fight but also must follow the path of good.

Phanna Rithikrai, a veteran of Thai action cinema, took Tony under his wing, training him in kung fu and stunt work. Tony also studied Taekwondo, swordplay and gymnastics. His skills became so advanced that he gave demonstrations in Northeast Thailand and China. To prepare for the role, Tony added his native sport to his physical repertoire, and began training in Muay Thai four years ago, specifically for his role in Ong Bak.

Prior to production, Phanna and Tony put together their own stunt team, and painstakingly and painfully choreographed the film’s action sequences. “I focused on the beauty of the classical Muay Thai movements,” reveals Phanna. “I tried to stay true to the integrity of the art, because I knew this would be the first real Thai Boxing film. I wanted every punch and kick to be crystal clear to the audience.”


What makes Ong-Bak: The Thai Warrior so distinctive from the Chinese martial arts films that influenced it is Jaa's unique fighting style: Muy Thai, an ancient form of Thai boxing. "What makes Muy Thai different from other forms of martial arts is that the elbows and knees are used," he explained, going on to tell us about the three different versions. "There's Muy Thai Boran, an ancient form used during wartime that has a lot of culture and tradition involved with it, the kind of fighting you see in 'Ong Bak'," Jaa said. "Then there's a form of stage boxing when it becomes a sport, where the culture and tradition that comes from the various moves disappears because of the rules that become involved with it."


“Every scene serves as a showcase for different movements from classical Muay Thai,” says Prachya. “Originally, when I conceived the film, I didn’t think about using Thai Boxing. Then, when I started working with Phanna and Tony, they shot some videotape footage of the kind of fights they wanted to do. Once I saw these unique Muay Thai movements, I was impressed with the moves, and the fact that Tony could execute them so naturally, without wires or other tricks. That became the ‘style’ for the film’s fight scenes.”

Prachya broke down the different Muay Thai movements in terms of their cinematic application. “Each action has a different purpose,” he reveals. “Some are for counter attacks. Some of them are first strike moves. Some actions, like the guard, are taken to fend off an opponent.” Even the smallest details added to the effect Prachya and his team were aiming for. “If you look at the way Tony holds his fists, it’s different from Chinese kung fu,” says the director, “and it’s different from western boxing. Every time he punches, he straightens the whole arm. You have to watch the fights closely to catch the details in the action. The guard position, the way he stamps the ground, these are all trademarks of Muay Thai.”

The production took great care in finding an appropriate variety of opponents for Ting to fight. One of the most memorable is a hirsute Wildman from the west, ‘Big Bear’. “Big Bear completely disrespects Thai Boxing,” says Prachya of the character. “He wants to challenge all the Thai fighters, and we see him sexually abusing a Thai waitress. Our hero has to defend the pride of the Thai people. The move he uses in that scene is called ‘Bata Loop Pak’, which means ‘Foot Touches Face’. It’s actually a great insult in Thai culture to touch someone with your foot, so this was the perfect gesture for such a rude person.”



“Bata Loop Pak” (Front push kick to the face). In Muay Thai, this technique is a jesture of disgracing your opponent. The head is consider a sacred part of the body in Budisim so when the sole of the feet, the part of the body peope use to walk on dirt is push into someone face, it is sign of great disrespect.


Taken from various sources:

http://www.magpictures.com/distribution/da...roduction_notes
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=8295