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anurak
here is a couple interesting comments from a very casual chat with Col Amnat Pooksrisuk, who taught Tony Jaa the moves used in TYG as well as some of the ones that will be used in OB2.

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Q. When did Tony Jaa come to see you?
A. After filming Ong Bak, and before starting Tom Yum Goong. In Ong Bak, Tony Jaa used many old techniques that others don’t have the skill to do. It is Muay Thai Boran from the style of the Master น วงศ์ธนู (N Wongtanoo).

Q. Why did Tony Jaa seek you?
A. He came seeking a deeper knowledge of ancient Thai martial arts, to expand on what he already knew. He wanted to show ancient Muay Thai that people may not be familiar with.

Q. What techniques did you teach him?
A. I began teaching him everything that I know. He learned very fast because he already had a very deep background in the martial arts. I didn’t hold back any of my knowledge. I gave him as much as he could absorb.
After a while, Baa Ram Ewe didn’t let him continue to study with me. But he still comes to me sometimes anyway. I truly see him as a devoted student, regardless of what Baa Ram Ewe allows him to do. If he comes to me asking for anything, I give it to him – answer his questions, show him techniques, give him my books, give him connections to my friends who also teach various martial arts. In fact, there is a Kung Fu teacher who is helping Tony Jaa on the set of Ong Bak 2 that I connected them together.

Q. What is Muay Kojasan (from TYG)?
A. Muay Kojasan is what Tony Jaa used in the movie. It’s not a real style of ancient Muay Thai, but it actually is based on a category of elephant movements such as chaang tamlai rohng and other moves in Muay Korat that I taught him. “Muay Kojasan” is fictional, but the moves are real.

Q. What did you teach him for Ong Bak 2?
A. I taught him the many moves that are hidden in Khon dancing. In ancient times, if a master taught his art to the Royal Guards or soldiers, it’s ok. But if he is no longer in royal or military service, he could be executed for teaching martial arts to other people. It was dangerous. So many masters hid their martial art in the movements of Khon dance, so it would not be lost. Many techniques are hidden especially in the movements of Hanuman and other wanon, as well as Tosakan and other yuk.


recently, Khun Pichet Klunchun (who performed with Tony Jaa at the Suphanahongsa Movie Awards) was able to sit down with Col Amnat to discuss Ancient Muay Thai in Khon dance. For Khun Pichet, it was like having his eyes opened for the first time. He said something like "you mean i've been learning martial arts all this time?" to which Col Amnat replied "only partially. you have only the outside of it. you should learn the applications too!"
Wilko
What a fasinating read Anurak. I found the part about martial arts being hidden in the Khon dance particulaly moving and l am even more eager to see how Tony translates it into his style of fighting.
l wonder why Tony was stopped from learning more from the master?
Thank you very much Anurak. bigarmhug.gif
Thep
Thank you so much, anurak. 0146.gif
777
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After a while, Baa Ram Ewe didn’t let him continue to study with me. But he still comes to me sometimes anyway. I truly see him as a devoted student, regardless of what Baa Ram Ewe allows him to do.

What does he mean ? Why Baa Ram Ewe didn`t let Tony to study with him ?

Ling
Thank you Anurak!
anurak
QUOTE(777 @ Jul 10 2007, 03:51 AM) *

What does he mean ? Why Baa Ram Ewe didn`t let Tony to study with him ?

i think it's because baa ram ewe wants tony to appear as a naturally gifted talent who doesn't require tutoring or training. almost like he was born being an instant master of ancient thai martial arts or that the only training he ever needed was at mahasarakham. i don't know for sure, and i think only baa ram ewe can really answer this.

there's so much more he can learn, regardless of how skilled he already is. there is no end to learning.
UltraMaster2000
Thanks for the info, Anurak.

Considering what Col Amnat said about teaching martial arts to people outside military circles in the past, is there any info about any martial arts teacher being actually executed because of teaching common people?
777
QUOTE(anurak @ Jul 10 2007, 07:46 AM) *

i think it's because baa ram ewe wants tony to appear as a naturally gifted talent who doesn't require tutoring or training. almost like he was born being an instant master of ancient thai martial arts or that the only training he ever needed was at mahasarakham. i don't know for sure, and i think only baa ram ewe can really answer this.

there's so much more he can learn, regardless of how skilled he already is. there is no end to learning.

100% agree with you.Thank you,Anurak !
anurak
QUOTE(UltraMaster2000 @ Jul 10 2007, 06:41 PM) *

Thanks for the info, Anurak.

Considering what Col Amnat said about teaching martial arts to people outside military circles in the past, is there any info about any martial arts teacher being actually executed because of teaching common people?

i'm not certain; tremendous amounts of detailed reords were lost when ayutthaya was sacked. i'll try to find out for you.
Wilko
Anurak, when you say 'a casual chat' can l assume you were speaking to col Amnat yourself? 24_wow.gif
Yeng
A friend sent to me a link where we can see two pictures of Tony JAA with Colonel Amnat Pooksrisuk. 24_wow.gif



Credit goes to Tpg-nakmuay.com



I cannot reach the site admin, i hope they don't mind if i post the pics in our forum... Thanks to Yoann for the info !



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Thep
Thanks, Yoann and Yeng. 0483.gif

Finally we have some pictures of Tony with Khruu Amnat to confirm the information that Tony really learned some part of martial arts from him. Wow, this will be great. 0117.gif
Wilko
Thank you, Yeng and Yoann, for these pictures. 0117.gif
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Marocano
amazing pictures . flowers.gif ...i like the clothes and hair style also

thank you yeng and yoann
777
Thank you Yeng ! It`s great to see his teacher 0740.gif
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